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''Objection:'' Since only TAs would be enrolled, it establishes the precedent of offering courses only to a select group of students. | ''Objection:'' Since only TAs would be enrolled, it establishes the precedent of offering courses only to a select group of students. | ||
''Answer:'' CSC 630, CSC 695, CSC 699, CSC 890, CSC 895, or any departmental-approval required course is already a closed course. | ''Answer:'' CSC 630, CSC 695, CSC 699, CSC 890, CSC 895, or any departmental-approval required course is already a closed course. As to being a precedent for anything else, that is unlikely; see below. | ||
''Rebuttal:'' David Thuente made a point about the dissimilarity of this offering to 600- and 800-level courses, which I do not recall. | |||
=== A precedent for abuse? === | |||
''Objection:'' If this were allowed, the department might have to deal with many proposals to offer courses for two or three students. | |||
''Answer:'' Such proposals would likely be rare to nonexistent. The Registrar, Louis Hunt, is not aware, offhand, of any similar offering in any department at any time in the past. If the proposal is to offer a ''new'' course for two or three students, it would have to be approved by the appropriate departmental/college committees, as other courses are. Also, the lecture media files would have to be available, which would preclude all new courses. If it is a section of an ''existing'' course, why would anyone want to offer a tiny section as an overload when they could get teaching credit for taking a normal-sized section? The only motivation I can anticipate is a faculty member on leave who wants to provide continuity to his teaching and research program. | |||
Moreover, it is not argued that offering such a course ''for continuity of someone's teaching/research program'' is an abuse. It is just argued that it could be a ''precedent'' for some abuse. But, what abusive motivation might there be? Arguing that something should not be done now because it might possibly be a precedent for abuse later, when we don't have any idea what that abuse might be, is sheer speculation, and not a very strong reason to deny this request. | |||
Finally, if a request were made to offer a course for reason that is an abuse of our educational mission, that request could and should be turned down because it was abusive. | |||
=== An unfair advantage? === | |||
''Objection:'' Faculty often have to be assigned [[Better_qualified_TAs|TAs who have not taken their course]]. This is inevitable because we have 23 entering TAs this year. By offering a course to a couple of TAs, it is argued, I would be obtaining an unfair advantage over other faculty. Furthermore, TAs are Ph.D. students, so this gives me a way to work with Ph.D. students that is not available to other faculty. | |||
''Answer:'' I don't think it's right to look at this in terms of "advantage." Other faculty members have Ph.D. students with TAs who can TA their course; I don't. Other faculty have multiple Ph.D. students; I currently don't. I have 0 CSC Ph.D. students. (I do have one ECE Ph.D. student, who is on leave.) This is an area where I sorely need to catch up. Providing a catch-up opportunity is a benefit, not a harm. | |||
=== Summary === | |||
This offering of CSC 517 would be more than a DE course, because of my weekly meetings with the students. It's not an unfair advantage for me, because it brings me closer to doing my fair share in working with Ph.D. students and advancing the research agenda of the department. This special offering is not objectionable in itself. It should not be denied over vague concerns about it being a bad precedent for some unspecified abuse that has never occurred in the past. | |||
There are real benefits to this proposal. Not only would it help provide a qualified TA for a fairly large graduate course, and therefore benefit the students who take that course next year, but it could help me advance my contribution to the research program of the department. I ask that the proposal be approved. |
Latest revision as of 15:49, 7 August 2008
Special Offering of CSC 517: The Issues
The proposal is to offer a special section of CSC 517 to two or three students holding teaching assistantships, while I am on sabbatical. The primary motivation is to provide more options for finding a qualified TA in 2009, though there are other advantages.
A DE course?
Objection: Since the students would view prerecorded lectures from 2007, it is essentially a DE course.
Answer: Since I would meet with the students for an hour a week, they would actually have more contact with me than if they were attending lectures in a classroom.
A closed course?
Objection: Since only TAs would be enrolled, it establishes the precedent of offering courses only to a select group of students.
Answer: CSC 630, CSC 695, CSC 699, CSC 890, CSC 895, or any departmental-approval required course is already a closed course. As to being a precedent for anything else, that is unlikely; see below.
Rebuttal: David Thuente made a point about the dissimilarity of this offering to 600- and 800-level courses, which I do not recall.
A precedent for abuse?
Objection: If this were allowed, the department might have to deal with many proposals to offer courses for two or three students.
Answer: Such proposals would likely be rare to nonexistent. The Registrar, Louis Hunt, is not aware, offhand, of any similar offering in any department at any time in the past. If the proposal is to offer a new course for two or three students, it would have to be approved by the appropriate departmental/college committees, as other courses are. Also, the lecture media files would have to be available, which would preclude all new courses. If it is a section of an existing course, why would anyone want to offer a tiny section as an overload when they could get teaching credit for taking a normal-sized section? The only motivation I can anticipate is a faculty member on leave who wants to provide continuity to his teaching and research program.
Moreover, it is not argued that offering such a course for continuity of someone's teaching/research program is an abuse. It is just argued that it could be a precedent for some abuse. But, what abusive motivation might there be? Arguing that something should not be done now because it might possibly be a precedent for abuse later, when we don't have any idea what that abuse might be, is sheer speculation, and not a very strong reason to deny this request.
Finally, if a request were made to offer a course for reason that is an abuse of our educational mission, that request could and should be turned down because it was abusive.
An unfair advantage?
Objection: Faculty often have to be assigned TAs who have not taken their course. This is inevitable because we have 23 entering TAs this year. By offering a course to a couple of TAs, it is argued, I would be obtaining an unfair advantage over other faculty. Furthermore, TAs are Ph.D. students, so this gives me a way to work with Ph.D. students that is not available to other faculty.
Answer: I don't think it's right to look at this in terms of "advantage." Other faculty members have Ph.D. students with TAs who can TA their course; I don't. Other faculty have multiple Ph.D. students; I currently don't. I have 0 CSC Ph.D. students. (I do have one ECE Ph.D. student, who is on leave.) This is an area where I sorely need to catch up. Providing a catch-up opportunity is a benefit, not a harm.
Summary
This offering of CSC 517 would be more than a DE course, because of my weekly meetings with the students. It's not an unfair advantage for me, because it brings me closer to doing my fair share in working with Ph.D. students and advancing the research agenda of the department. This special offering is not objectionable in itself. It should not be denied over vague concerns about it being a bad precedent for some unspecified abuse that has never occurred in the past.
There are real benefits to this proposal. Not only would it help provide a qualified TA for a fairly large graduate course, and therefore benefit the students who take that course next year, but it could help me advance my contribution to the research program of the department. I ask that the proposal be approved.